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 Post subject: Setting
PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:42 pm 
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Well, let's kick this new forum off! Thank you all for your patience. :)

Discussions about the RP mainly took place here: http://forum.kosmosinsel.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=108. I will detail the most important results below.

One big concern was the time, setting-wise. We cannot have the RP take place at the same time as the actual Kosmosinsel Chronicles game (currently 796 UC) because 1) there are canon Fleet Admirals who were active at the time, which means we would have to downgrade our characters to fit into the story, and (though this only occurred to me later) 2) it would likely result in characters discussing battle tactics of current relevancy out in the open, which would be disadvantageous. So we decided to go with the suggestion made by Radetz:

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As for at what time on the canon timeline the RP would be set, I would suggest sometime early on during the Alliance-Imperial War, probably sometime in the first few decades after it began in 640 UC. That way, there would be quite a bit of creative freedom without contradicting canon events (after the Battle of Dagon in 640 UC the next known canon event is in 696 UC).

This means the characters in the RP will actually be the ancestors of the ones active in the game. Naturally it is up to each individual player to decide how similar or different ancestor and descendant are in terms of personality, warfare strategies, etc.

Ryder brought up an important point as well:

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Also allows us to choose more freely what kind of character we can RP: it can even be something different from a soldier!

Have fun coming up with your character, and when you are ready post a character sheet in the Characters section! Everybody is very welcome to join, and no worries if you are on a busy schedule, this is supposed to be fun without pressure.

My question to you is: Should we define a specific year to start our RP in and embellish the political situation a bit? For example, should we make up a scenario in which FPA and Empire are fighting over a certain planet or region? Let me know what you think.

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 Post subject: Re: Setting
PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:01 pm 
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Well, I think we should establish a general political situation for a basic background plot. For example, the year, who is the kaiser in the Empire and who is the Alliance head of state, what are the main contested planets right now, etc. It will provide a setting for people to make plots in with their characters. I'd recommend to post it on a thread in the The Story section.

As for the specific plots that will be roleplayed out, regarding the individual battles and other events related to our characters, they should be made up by the individual users involved.


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 Post subject: Re: Setting
PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:58 pm 
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That all sounds very sensible to me. Would you already have some ideas? I faintly recall some mentions of the ancestry of Kaiser Friedrich in the anime, but I don't know if it went far enough back in time to be helpful for us. As for the FPA leadership I am completely in the dark.

But I will brainstorm about the political / battle situation as well as soon as I have a little more time!

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 Post subject: Re: Setting
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:24 am 
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I am still thinking about it. But as for a list of Kaisers, it was written up in an LOGH encyclopedia published in Japanese. The list is avialable in Gineipaedia:

https://gineipaedia.com/wiki/Goldenbaum_Dynasty


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 Post subject: Re: Setting
PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:52 am 
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Apologies for being so slow to reply, but this has been a bit of a challenge for me, haha. We essentially need to set up a fairly complex political scenery with clear battlefronts and objectives; it took me a while to get to it.

Looking at the Kaisers definitely is a good start! Since we are setting our RP in the early years of the Alliance-Imperial War we have some guidance there. To recap: the Battle of Dagon took place in 640 UC / 330 IC under the 20th Kaiser, Friedrich III the Defeated, and the next known canon event happens in 696 UC / 386 IC. This gives us a handful of Kaisers to choose from during the interim period.

21 Maximilian Josef I 331 IC-336 IC
22 Gustav (The Hundred Day King) 336 IC-337 IC
23 Maximilian Josef II (The Seer, The Rebuilder) 337 IC-???
24 Kornelias I ???-359 IC-???
25 Manfred I ???

About Maximilian Josef I there is not much information, and Gustav obviously had a very short reign. Maximilian Josef II was an interesting Kaiser, seeing how he apparently much improved living conditions for the citizens and stopped enacting the Inferior Genes Exclusion Act. That might be a neat time to explore, but his successor Kornelias I set out to confront the FPA more decicively (though he did attempt diplomacy several times without success at first), which would probably suit our setting better, seeing how we want FPA and Empire characters to have some interaction. Also interesting: Kornelias I appointed a huge number of Fleet Admirals, 58 altogether. That would easily allow us to toss our characters into the mix. Manfred I, again, is pretty much a blank slate.

As for the FPA, up to Kornelias' well-organised large-scale strike against them they seem to have been in a very optimistic, euphoric and self-assured mood, having dealt the Empire a major blow in the Battle of Dagon. We probably won't be able to gather any information about the FPA's leadership during the following decades, but it's enough to help set the scene. Seeing how they triumphed over the Empire in the Dagon star zone I believe it would be reasonable to say that Heinessen, Uruvasi and El Facil were under their control after that battle. So the setting wouldn't differ much from what we usually consider the status quo of our game.

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 Post subject: Re: Setting
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:46 pm 
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I have been inactive for the last couple of months but now that I am back, I will be more active and will help get this RP started.

Also: As for FPA leadership during that time, I stumbled upon a good fanon list of Chairmen of the Supreme Council and their brief histories. I found them interesting, so I thought we could maybe use it in our RP, since the FPA does not have much info on its leaders in canon (scroll down towards the bottom of the page, that is where the list begins):
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9498399/21 ... -Fight-For

Anyway, I think that we should set this RP during the reign of either Kornelias I or Maximilian Josef II.

With the latter, it would be very interesting militarily, due to his invasion of the Alliance. Both Alliance and Imperial characters (at least those that pick the military path) should start off with either lower flag ranks of senior officer ranks. We should start off the RP around the time of the coronation of Kornelias, so that we have time to roleplay out some other events and develop our characters a bit, and also have them rise to prominence in both states and thus have them play a bigger role in the following invasion. We could also have our characters be involved in the negotiation attempts before then, which would also provide opportunity for FPA-Imperial character interactions. And, of course, have them hold command positions during the time of the invasion.

Here is an example of what the basic plot could look like if set in Kornelias's time:

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On [insert date], the wise Maximilian Josef II - a brilliant reformer - had died after a life of reforming the Galactic Empire and improving the lives of its people. Considered to be a great leader, he was beloved by the Imperial people and left big shoes for his successor to fill. His son, Kornelias, has been recently crowned as Kaiser. Kornelias is determined to live up to - or even surpass - his father's reputation. While Maximilian Josef made gains in domestic politics, his successor naturally decides to make his name in foreign policy, by bringing the rebels of the Free Planets Alliance back under Imperial rule, one way or another.

At the same time, in the Alliance, Gilbert Rossa has been leading as the Supreme Council Chairman, the first in several decades who is not from the Progressive Party. Although initially popular, his liberal, pacifistic policies have made many in the FPA believe that he is making the Alliance more vulnerable to Imperial invasion. Opposition to his leadership is increasing, and the Alliance government is in political gridlock as a result, not able to make a decision. Everyone in both the Alliance and the Empire waits, in anticipation, for the new Kaiser's next move.


With the former, since Maximilian Josef II was a domestic reformer, we could have good opportunities for being involved in Imperial politics and FPA-Imperial diplomacy (for example, the Alliance could try to begin relations with the Empire since the Kaiser has more 'liberal' policies, etc). That would also give opportunities for being in court intrigues. For example, we could have some Imperial characters who support Maximilian Josef's reforms and protect him from rival high nobles, while, if they want, some characters instead support reactionary aristocrats in an anti-Kaiser conspiracy (these can be NPCs if no one wants to side with them). The reactionary faction could launch an uprising/coup d'etat attempt to overthrow the Kaiser. Meanwhile, the FPA could secretly become involved and support one side or the other in the conflict, giving chances for FPA-Imperial interactions.

The basic plot during his reign could be something like this:

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With the death of Friedrich III the Defeated, who disgraced the Galactic Empire due to the shameful defeat at Dagon, he was succeeded as Kaiser by Gustav. However, the sickly new ruler was not fit to hold the throne, and was poisoned a mere hundred days into his reign. Friedrich's second son, Maximilian Josef II, replaces him. With the recent unrest, the upper echelons of the Empire are divided like never before, and the chances of a popular uprising are high. Adding on to his problems is a group of high nobles and military officers that is against the new kaiser's proposed internal reforms, and believe that he needs to be removed from power.

Meanwhile, the Free Planets Alliance intends to take advantage of the Empire's internal problems and secretly prepares to ignite the flames of civil war. The Alliance government has began secretly sponsoring a the faction of high nobles that intend to overthrow the Kaiser, with the intention of spreading unrest in the Empire, and maybe even causing it to collapse. This is the difficult situation that Maximilian Josef II and his supporters have found themselves in, but the new ruler is determined to save the Empire from collapse.


I think we should use the canon information as a 'starting guideline' of sorts, but not let it constrict our plot-making too much. This is, after all, a fan fiction roleplay. We should use canon info to start us off, then have or character plot development take it from there.


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 Post subject: Re: Setting
PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:20 am 
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von Radetz wrote:
I think we should use the canon information as a 'starting guideline' of sorts, but not let it constrict our plot-making too much. This is, after all, a fan fiction roleplay. We should use canon info to start us off, then have or character plot development take it from there.


I agree with you entirely on this point, @von Radetz. While the canon source does go into some minutiae on occasion regarding certain events, this attention to detail is not uniform and gives us a great chance to fill in the blanks, in a way. As for under whose reign/which starting point for us to adopt, shall we leave this to a majority vote? (We can be democratic even in an empire, after all!) I'm also curious if there will be any takers from the FPA side, as well!


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 Post subject: Re: Setting
PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:33 am 
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rationelle wrote:
I'm also curious if there will be any takers from the FPA side, as well!

I'm not sure there will be RP players among the actual FPA KC players, so I suppose we will have to recruit new members ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Setting
PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:33 pm 
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Aw, withough FPA players we'll get lonely! :cry: Time to go recruiting again, indeed.

I agree with Rationelle, we should vote on which time/scenario to choose. Radetz, you made both look very appealing! Personally I have a slight preference for setting the RP at the start of Kornelias I's reign as it feels like this would require less NPC-heavy plotlines. I love court intrigues, but it would surely require us to write more about many background characters and their decisive actions whereas under Kornelias' rule the military would be somewhat more at the centre of attention (which, of course, does not mean that non-military characters can't be of crucial importance regardless).

Lastly I'm grateful for that list of FPA Chairpersons; it's really well-made. Now I wonder if we should contact the author to tell them it inspired us... maybe it will make them happy (and who knows, perhaps they'll even consider joining us ;) ).

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 Post subject: Re: Setting
PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:25 pm 
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Well, let's have a vote then. I will also go with the idea to hold it in Kornelias's time.

So far, for Kornelias - 2.

Eventually our timeline will advance to the reigns of other kaisers. We can do some "time skips" if we need to.


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